Showing posts with label Interview. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Interview. Show all posts

Sunday, August 31, 2014

Why some of the worst men make the best pastors.

I used to be afraid that I had irreparably destroyed my chance at being a leader of God's people. I was nearing the end of my college career (finishing a ministry degree). I had just left a church in disgrace, after my secret life of sin blew up in my face and went public. And I had little to no faith that anyone would ever trust me again.

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Hitting rock bottom
It was a pretty rocky patch in my life. Some might call it my rock bottom. My hope was at an all time low, and my weakness at it's highest ever. I understood that God was strong enough to save me from myself, my biggest problem was I didn't believe he wanted to. But for some reason, I had hope of having hope. And on the darkest night of my life, I prayed what was perhaps the first honest prayer I ever prayed. I simply said, "Jesus, please don't give up on me."

Sunday, August 3, 2014

7 Tips For Nailing Your Next Audition and Interview

A few months after I was hired at Moon Valley Bible Church, my boss walked into my office with a thick stack of papers. He said, "These are the all the applications that were submitted for your job." Looking at the big floppy stack. And I said, "Dang. That's a lot of applications."

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He smiled and said, "Yeah,  a lot of really quality worship leaders tried out for your job. Do you want to know why you got it?" My eyes widened and I thought What was it that set me apart? 

Thursday, January 9, 2014

Tim Harris Instantly Became My Hero. After 2 Minutes, He'll Be Yours Too! [Video]

I began this blog with the purpose of encouraging and challenging leaders to discover more potential in their lives. So I love writing about people who are accomplishing great things, and showing everyone what one person can be capable of. 

My wife showed this to me the other night. As I watched it, two things completely blew me away. First, I was blown away to see that AOL still exists. Secondly, I was completely inspired by Tim Harris' capacity for genuine Love. More than any CEO, Mega-Church Pastor, Author, Sports Figure, or Celebrity, this guy is an excellent example to follow. 

Friday, September 6, 2013

Building A Limitless Team: Interview With Ryan Hunt


Ryan Hunt is a loving father, devoted husband, nationally acclaimed recording artist and worship leader, a commissioned minister, and leadership consultant. Ryan’s core passion is helping others awaken to the presence, hope and calling of Jesus.



Tim: “Thanks for getting together today Ryan. Right off the bat, what was it that drew you into leading worship?”


Ryan: “I grew up in a very musical family. I’ve always loved music and the impact it has on people. Then I went to college at Mid America Christian University. I was a music major there for a couple of years before I realized music just wasn’t enough. It had to be about more than just performing in front of people. I went to a camp one year called Super Summer, and this little fellow named Charlie Hall was leading worship. This was before he blew up nationally. I had been to camps and conferences before, but I had never experienced worship like this. He was inspirational. Not just funny or hand clapping cheesy. There was something about it that really took hold of my heart.”


“I was there as a youth counselor. But with any free time I had I would seek Charlie out and ask him questions. As it turned out, we both lived in Oklahoma City, so he offered me the opportunity to extend our conversations. We met several times at places like Schlotzsky's, and from that point on I was sold.”


Tim: “That’s awesome. In our past conversations about worship, you’ve mentioned is the idea that as a leader you want to, ‘be a floor and not a ceiling’ for your team. What does that mean?


Ryan: “I think, if we’re not careful, the level of our church will never rise above our own abilities, or even inabilities. Whether you’re an artist or an administrator this is true. As leaders, we can become afraid to let people see the holes. So we try to mask them, and control everything. We do that so we can feel complete, or at least be seen as a good leader. When we do that, we become a ceiling for our team. Nobody can get past you. You limit everybody else’s potential.”


“Then, as we try to control, we can tend to take ourselves too seriously. We can tend to think too much of ourselves. Suddenly everything revolves around us. It’s like the old joke: How many worship leaders does it take to screw in a light bulb?”


Tim: “How many?”


Ryan: “Just one. He holds the light bulb, and the whole world revolves around him.”


Tim: “So if a worship leader is falling into that trap, what can he or she do about it?”


Ryan: “Learn to build into other people. Something special happens when we build our team members. Look for ways to build on their potential. As you do that, you can set small goals for team members. Then within a year or so, you can have two or three people who are as good as you at certain things. So by supporting them, you’ve become the floor. As they discover more of their own potential, they’re not limited by what we’re good at.”


Tim: “Can you tell me about a time in your ministry when you were leading and you became the ‘floor’ for your team by finding somebody else to fill in for one of your weaknesses?”


Ryan: “Sure. When I accepted a position as worship leader at my last church, I realized that the community needed more than a person to connect with. They needed the services to have personality. I knew my personality would connect with some people, but not all of them. When it came to planning services, I needed more than just myself. So I slowly started building a team of people. I hand picked them. I looked for people who were strong leaders and very creative. I didn’t want anybody in planning meetings to sit in the room just sucking up air. I looked for people who were passionate enough that they were willing to fight for their ideas. And not just for the sake of fighting, but because they wanted the services to be the best they could be.”


“Sometimes, in those meetings, it felt like we had eight captains. But what was beautiful was that the product represented the community, not just one person. I got to set myself under those people, and watch them grow. As leaders, we’re called to serve like this. Jesus definitely gives us that picture of putting the towel over his arm and serving the disciples. If we’re going to serve people, we have to put ourselves below them.”


Tim: “If somebody is reading this right now and realizing they are have been a ceiling for their team and they want to become a floor, what are some steps they can take?”


Ryan: “Well, it starts with relationships. You have to invest in people’s lives. I think too many times, in churches, we see people as a means to an end. It’s important to invest in relationships, and see the people as people. As you invest in them, listen to what they’re good at. Then you’ll know were to encourage them. Second, you have to think about the direction you want to take your team. Once you’ve done that, you can figure out how use your team’s skills. Third, you have to be willing to take risks. You certainly don’t want to put a person in a position where they won’t succeed. If I’m trying to raise someone up as a worship leader, I’m not just gonna throw something at them. Sometimes I’ll throw them a verse of a song and say, ‘Hey, I’d like you to lead this verse.’ The important thing is that you want them to start out leading by your side. As you work with that person, figure out what kind of resources you can give them. If there’s a conference, take them to the conference.
Another thing you can do is see how they do communicating with the church. You can say, ‘Hey Bob. We’re going to sing this song, 10,000 Reasons, next Sunday. I want you to do the introduction to the song. Keep it  at about a minute. I’d like you to just pray about it and think about it. Give people a lens to look at this song through.’ And through all of it, make sure you give them plenty of affirmation.”


Tim: “Ryan, thank you for taking the time to answer these questions. Where should people go if they want to find out more about you and your ministry?”

Ryan: “They can go to my website, RyanHuntBand.com or they can check me out on Facebook.”

Friday, August 9, 2013

Ritual in Worship: An Interview With Jeff Merry


Jeff & Karen Merry

by Tim Swanson

Jeff Merry is an experienced worship leader and leadership coach in Phoenix. In 1992 he started Worship!Arizona, a network for worship leaders to get connected and share resources. Then in 1996 he started Worshipnet.org, a nonprofit designed to develop worship leadership through mentoring and coaching. Last Wednesday, Jeff came to my house. We had breakfast, and talked shop about worship in our community.

We had just finished eating breakfast and caught up on each other's ministries when we sat down on the couch in my living room. I pulled my phone out of my pocket.  Opening the voice recording app, I asked if it would be okay for me to record our conversation. He said 'yes'. So I hit 'record' and started in:


Tim: "Jeff, how long have you been leading worship?"


Jeff: Rolling his head back to do a few short math equations, "Let's see. It's been forty two years now."


Tim: "You've been leading for a long time. What is the one thing you would tell young worship leaders that you wish you had heard when you first started off?"


Jeff: "It’s not about you. It’s not about your performance. It’s not about group dynamics, and volume of participation, or volume of voices, or clapping or anything like that. It’s more about connecting people to God."


Tim: "Let me shift direction with you. In a conversation we had the other day you mentioned this idea that worship is kinda like baseball. Would you describe that?"


Jeff: "Well I was talking about how baseball and worship services can be similar, in that there’s a lot of traditions that are formed. In baseball, when you watch somebody step up to the plate to swing away, they go through a number of rituals to get ready. They may say a little prayer, cross themselves, swing the bat a certain way, or tap their foot. Why do they do that?"


"Well, because the last time they did that, they hit a home-run. So they want to hit another home-run. So they try to do exactly what they did before. Say they ate Mac ‘n’ Cheese before the game that day. Now they gotta have Mac ‘n’ Cheese out of their green bowl every time before the game. The superstitions go on and on."


"How much is the church like that? Our home-run is, getting people to respond, and getting people saved. When we see people respond like that, as worship leaders ,we say, ‘Okay, I did these specific songs. Then at the second chorus people all stood up, and it was amazing. I gotta do that again” or we do communion a certain way, or we pray before the message. We do offering after the message because we got a lot more money when we did it that way. We create superstitions. We call them traditions or liturgy, but in essence, we’re doing the same kind of thing."


Tim: "What kind of rituals have you faced in your career as a worship leader?"


Jeff: "For me, it’s songs that worked certain ways, dynamically. I find myself doing them the same way if I found I got a response before. I’ll do ‘Blessed Be Your Name’. And one time I created a little more energy by doing a little drop out during the chorus. And people went, ‘Wow, that was cool’. Now every time I do the song, I do it the same way. And Now I don’t get the same response every time."


"We develop formulas for things we think are going to please God. But when we do that, we miss something really powerful. What we’re missing is the readiness of God today to do something new. We talk about Scripture that says, ‘sing a new song to God’ (Psalm 98:1; Psalm 96:1-13; Psalm 40:3). And we become the biggest offenders of that because we don't do it new. We do it the way we think it worked last time. But God has asked us not to do it that way. Why would he do that? Well, it’s because He knows the unique needs of the people coming. He knows their feelings, and exactly what will help them to seeing His face, receive forgiveness, encouragement, and whatever kind of wisdom they need in their marriage, their parenting or whatever they’re dealing with.."


Tim: "If somebody is caught up in rituals, what do you suggest they do?"


Jeff: "I think the best thing is to get out of the reactive mode, and spend some time thinking through, ‘What is our ‘big idea’ for this week?’ If you have a weekly Sunday planning session and you have the Scripture from the pastor or the theme for the week, step back and ask, ‘God how do you want me to contribute to what you want to accomplish in the hearts and minds of the people?’"


Tim: "What are a few good action steps that people can take if they want to connect emotionally with their congregation. Things that if they haven’t tried, you would recommend?"


Jeff: "Get out there and know them personally. Don’t assume that the people are on the same page as you and your team. Some of them may have no clue what you mean when you say ‘Okay,  let’s worship God now.’ Start with the cookies on the bottom shelf. Say something that simplifies it like, ‘Today we’re going to sing some songs about the God that we believe is here, cares about us, and has power to work in our lives.’"


"I think the way to initiate them is like in Andy Stanley’s new book, Deep and Wide. Get people connected, get them engaged. Then you can take them someplace. But if they’re not engaged they’re not going to be able to go with you."


Tim: "What is the one thing you want worship leaders to know right now?”

Jeff: "Yeah, God loves you. And he’s delighted with what you’re doing. So don’t give up."